WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Nurse Ratched 10:36 Fri Jan 4
Re: Dry January...
Were Shane and Kirsty in there? ;-)

simon.s 10:33 Fri Jan 4
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Nurse, yep that’s pretty much how I viewed AA. And being in New York you can well imagine what kind of cranks were in there.

That said, it helps my friend a lot, and I’ve no doubt it’s helped saved many many lives.

Grumpster 10:19 Fri Jan 4
Re: Dry January...
Yep I have no kids and this world and country are just getting worse and worse. Plus I just can't be bothered to be old and not be able to do what I can now.

Bring back capital punishment and it'll improve greatly.

I'd drink to that!!

dolph 10:11 Fri Jan 4
Re: Dry January...
Chirpy thread.

Nurse Ratched 10:07 Fri Jan 4
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AA is creepy. I went to one of their support meetings for the spouses and relatives of alkies, many years ago. Any port in a storm. It was potentially dangerous pseudo religious claptrap. I inwardly shuddered when it was time to chant some awful poem and it felt like prayers. I felt really embarrassed and uncomfortable.

It might have been bad luck, but they had the alkies' meeting going on at the same time in the same building. After our meeting broke up I was chatting to a lovely woman over a cup of tea. Her disgusting pig of an alkie husband came over and introduced himself and wasted no time putting the boot into her verbally.

He started going on about how he might be an alcoholic, but she and I were even sicker in the head because we were still sticking around in relationships with alkies. While it could be argued he had a point (up to a point) it seemed clear to me that while he was directing his remarks to me, the message was really for his wife and he was enjoying humiliating her in public. If I had been a more impressionable individual, meeting him could have been very upsetting on top of trying to find help and support to keep my family together in the face of my children's dad's alcoholism.

There didn't seem to be anybody in charge of the meeting. I don't know if that's the normal way AA works. But I felt that someone should have had the authority to intervene to stop or challenge that man from bullying his wife in front of people and potentially upsetting others in an AA meeting.

mashed in maryland 10:05 Fri Jan 4
Re: Dry January...
I can only assume those who hope they die before they get old don't have kids, or any younger relatives they'd like to see grow up.

Not to mention that dying early through boozing too much is very unlikely to be pleasant.

simon.s 9:38 Fri Jan 4
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I think the only way I will give up booze, is if I’m forced to, like Ted.

I went to an AA meeting in New York last year with a friend, just to observe really. First thing I did on coming out of there was to find a pub. Like Grumpster, I don’t intend on seeing old bones, and I enjoy it too much, even if I don’t always enjoy the shit that comes with it.

cambsiron 9:18 Fri Jan 4
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Dry January my big fat hairy arse. Randomly out necking some Bathams in the black country tonight.

4ever-blowin-bubbles 9:17 Fri Jan 4
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dry january thats easy just give up drinking till west ham win a league game lol

fossil 9:14 Fri Jan 4
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I'm 52 and it's amazing how rough some of the known drinkers of my age have started to look in the past 5 years or so. Some who i went to school with, others aquaintances from my youth. Some of them you'd swear were in their 70's.


Yes, you can get away with it in your twenties or thirties: be a functioning alcoholic, do a bit of sport, eat well, and you'll look no different to the teatotallers. But the internal organs get less potent in your forties and then is the time to cash in your chips and sort it out.

Grumpster 7:17 Fri Jan 4
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I've no interest in living past 60, so fuck having any dry weeks for the next 16 years or my dreams won't come true!!!

Happiest when boozing now that I'm not that fussed with modern football, so roll on the numerous units I plan on drinking tomorrow :o)

J.Riddle 7:02 Fri Jan 4
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ted fenton 4:29 Fri Jan 4

Thank you Ted, I'm pleased to hear you have managed to give it up. Some can't of course like my mum who has been an alcoholic from the day I can remember? I don't use that term lightly, she would never admit it she had a problem, Dad locked up all the booze but she still smuggled it in, Dad restricted it as much as he could but said she would make his life hell if he didn't allow her a glass of red with her meal.

85 now so hasn't done bad to be fair, the abuse seems to be catching up with her now sadly. They say she has cirrhosis of the liver and her kidneys are affected, lost loads of weight, fluid build up on her abdomen, doing brain tests which it affects over the next few days, hoping we get her home soon. Her older sister used to be the same drank pints and chain smoked lung cancer got her first. My brother and I both like a drink and hereditary, the genes are not good so have be aware :-(

Sarge 6:51 Fri Jan 4
Re: Dry January...
and PS

Usually Mon - Thurs are no booze days in our house (holidays and birthdays aside) but lately I've got to the point where I'd rather wake up fresh the following day and enjoy a bike ride on a nice cold crisp morning.


I stopped after a bottle of wine on NYE - spent the morning NYD riding around Richmond Park in the sunshine and may well do the same this weekend.

Sarge 6:47 Fri Jan 4
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Nurse Ratched 6:37 Thu Jan 3
Do you get disqualified from this game if you've just dumped a whole bottle of Cab Sauv in your coq au vin?


Depends Nursey. How much went on the floor because you hadn't made enough holes in the film before putting it in the microwave?

tanman 6:40 Fri Jan 4
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Exactly Mace, I want to be in a situation where once I get to 60 and retire (hopefully), I am still in good shape and can enjoy it. Therefore the obvious thing is to cut back on the booze. It is easy to dismiss it and think 'what a load of rubbish' (as I might have done a year or two ago)and carry on regardless but the evidence says otherwise. Easy to think that you are immune to it. We may well be lucky and be able to carry on like it until 80 odd but the chances are it will catch up with you.

Mace66 5:55 Fri Jan 4
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tanman 2:32 Fri Jan 4
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I am 42 now and kind of feel it is time to knock it on the head now or limit it if I am to be in good health in years to come.


I'm 52 and it's amazing how rough some of the known drinkers of my age have started to look in the past 5 years or so. Some who i went to school with, others aquaintances from my youth. Some of them you'd swear were in their 70's.

tanman 5:35 Fri Jan 4
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smartkev 5:28 Fri Jan 4
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Usually up my consumption in January, now the pubs have empied out.

tanman 5:28 Fri Jan 4
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My old mate was actually waiting for a transplant, one came available and his wife was delighted. The thing was they could not get him well enough to actually have the op. The liver was operating at some like 6-10% but then it impacted on his kidneys and everything else starts to struggle, then he just faded away.

tanman 5:24 Fri Jan 4
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That ok Ted, the more the read into it is does seem like a potential issue that people are not aware of until it is too late. I have touched on the levels you mention but not on a daily basis.

JustAFatKevinDavies 4:45 Fri Jan 4
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"I was on around 6 cans of cider and 2 bottles of red a day"

in fairness this does explain most of your posts in this period, Edward son.

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